UnCeiling You
The Corporate Mind Heist: How AI and the Trust Tax Are Quietly Stealing Your Best Thinking
With Dr. Natalie Luke
A conversation about retaining your own reasoning and recognizing pressures that weaken judgment.
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Pav Lertjitbanjong is a decision scientist and the founder of PAVNESS. She helps corporate professionals, executives, and founders think clearly with AI, question convincing advice and own the decisions that follow.
20+ years inside Fortune 500 & global organizations
BBA Decision Science · Kellogg MBA · Stanford-trained in AI leadership

Selected conversations
Start with these conversations about the human side of working with AI.
UnCeiling You
With Dr. Natalie Luke
A conversation about retaining your own reasoning and recognizing pressures that weaken judgment.
Listen to the episode ↗Mindset2Results
With Elena Apalkova
How to use AI as a thinking partner and take responsibility for the work you put into the world.
Listen to the episode ↗Redesign Your Life Today
With Daniel Kobryner
Independent thinking, attention and the human choices that remain when AI makes work faster.
Listen to the episode ↗Upcoming speaking
Join the conversation in Columbus or Khon Kaen.
· Columbus, Ohio, U.S.
How to keep your own reasoning visible when AI helps shape a recommendation.
Explore the October 19–20 conference ↗· Khon Kaen, Thailand
For producers & event organizers
What to verify, how to challenge a fluent answer and how to explain a recommendation in your own words.
How leaders can make ownership, exceptions and escalation clear when several people and tools contribute.
How shared challenges can reveal assumptions, bring quieter voices into the conversation and make reasoning visible.
Career, resilience & personal choices
Earlier conversations and features explore career uncertainty, financial resilience and making room for a different life.
New York Post · June 5, 2025
SWNS · November 2025
Past appearance · Palo Alto, California
Pav presented PAVNESS in the venture-forum program.
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Pav Lertjitbanjong is a decision scientist and founder of PAVNESS, a decision science company helping corporate professionals, executives, and founders sharpen their judgment with AI in the room. She spent more than 20 years inside Fortune 500 & global organizations, most recently as Head of Strategic Analytics. She holds a BBA in Decision Science from the University of Kentucky and an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, and has trained at Stanford in AI leadership. She designs and facilitates Pressure Room, a business simulation that helps teams practice consequential decisions and agree how they want to work.